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Dr. James A., PhD

It is amazing how much leftist liberals scream out for gun control, unless of course, those guns could be used to assassinate presidential candidate, Donald Trump:







(There are DOZENS, if not HUNDREDS, of these captured by Mark Dice)

One of the Twitter users making the death threats belongs to the U.S. Army (last name, Lara)

Oss my Houston people better kill Trump while he’s there and I’m over here 😭


Dr. James A, PhD

Prince was a part of the most destructive times of my life. As a teenager and in my early adult years as a guitar player and vocalist for several rock bands, Prince embodied everything I wanted to be as a rock star musician. I had watched Purple Rain probably 20 or so times. Along with Dream Theater (John Petrucci), Yngwie Malmsteen, Eric Johnson, Joe Satriani, Paul Gilbert, Nuno Bettencourt, Ritchie Kotzen, Vinnie Moore, Michael Angelo Batio, et al, Prince had an enormous influence on my guitar playing as a teenager. As a troubled teen, I was obsessed with guitar and singing. I mastered all of the “shredders”, and learned to sing like Sebastian Bach from Skid Row, and “Mili” from Steelheart. I was in several different bands, ran karaoke as a DJ, and partied like it was 1999. My life revolved around drugs, alcohol, fornication, and the dream of living like a rock star.

In the early 1990’s, I felt empty. My father had led me to Christ at a young age, and my grandparents were devout Bible believers, and I knew that the life I was leading was going nowhere fast. A few friends of mine invited me to a charismatic church, and I was introduced to bands like Stryper, Petra, Deliverance and Angelica. I had no idea that Christians could “shred” like Oz Fox and Dennis Cameron, and that “Christian” singers like Michael Sweet and John Schlitt could wail like Mili. However, my experience eventually became no different from when I played in the secular bands, so I went from an Assembly of God church to a more conservative church- the United Pentacostal Church. I never did speak in tongues, and that caused me to quit church because obviously God didn’t want me, and I apparently didn’t “have enough faith”.

Then I was invited to a youth conference in Michigan where I met Peter Ruckman. The “chalk talk” was about the Devil’s attempt to strike out Christians. I thought I was the only one in the audience and Ruckman had someone who’d followed me around and gave him fodder on me for his sermon. I wasn’t about to get struck out, so I started reading Ruckman books, learned the truth about the charismatic movement and tongues, Christian Rock, and went to an independent Baptist church where I eventually surrendered to ministry under the preaching of Dr. Joe Miller.

I have had a rough road since those days, and had backslidden a few times, and in between went to a few Bible colleges and law school, and just recently-and FINALLY-earned a PhD from Calvary Christian College & Seminary. I’ve been active in ministering to homeless people, prisoners, and passing out tracts almost every day of the week. My drive to seek the lost, study and memorize the Scripture, was mostly a result of talking to Dr. Ruckman at that youth conference.

Prince led a life of debauchery, drugs, promiscuity, and thought he was a god. Prince will answer for the lives he helped destroy by his influence. On the same day Prince died, Peter Ruckman also passed away at 94 years old. Ruckman trusted in the finished work of Christ, and even at 93 years old, in poor health, was in the streets preaching about the cross, and about the real Prince of Peace (Isaiah 9:6), the Lord Jesus Christ.

Say what you will about Ruckman, his “weird doctrines” (often a misrepresentation and distortion of things he actually said and wrote), his crude speech, or accuse him of claiming the KJV replaced the so-called originals and was a “reinspired translation”, what you can not do is negate the passion he had for lost people, and for his defense of the Bible. I have never seen a man more wrongfully criticized, misquoted, unfairly vilified, and misrepresented than Dr. Peter Ruckman, even by some of my favorite Baptist preachers. Nevertheless, Ruckman stood strong, he never retired, and kept fighting for the fundamentals of the faith, for the integrity of the King James Bible, and the battle for the souls of people like Prince on their way to hell up to his last dying breath.

Ruckman is one of the reasons that I chose to follow Christ and walk away from a destructive life that in part was influenced by men like Prince. I never agreed with Ruckman on everything, but he will be one of the influences in my life that I will be eager to meet in heaven.

I don’t know how Prince spent the last hours of his life, but I hope anyone reading this that was a fan of his doesn’t spend their last days in rejection of Christ. I would like to leave off here with a sermon by brother Ruckman on “Things You Can Lose”  and read the tract at the top of our website, “You Die, Then What?”


Click HERE for another excellent posthumous commentary on brother Ruckman by the Bernick Family.



Peter Ruckman Obituary

In Memory of

Dr. Peter S. Ruckman

November 19, 1921 – April 21, 2016
Peter Sturges Ruckman, November 19, 1921 – April 21, 2016 Matthew 25:21, “His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.” Dr. Ruckman is survived by his wife Pamela Ruckman, married 27 years, Pensacola, FL; and ten children; Diana Walker, Alabama; Priscilla and Michael Thornton, Pensacola, FL; David Ruckman, Pensacola, FL; Mike and Lynette Ruckman, Pensacola, FL; Peter Jr. and Heidi Ruckman, Chicago, IL; Jeremy and Valerie Huggins, Wichita, KS; Bryan Huggins, Ft. Walton Beach, FL; Michael and Lydia Huggins, Pensacola, FL; Laura Ruckman; Rachel Ruckman; 18 grandchildren, and 13 great-grandchildren. He is preceded in death by John Hamilton Ruckman, father; Mary Armstrong-Ruckman, mother; Marion Ruckman, sister; and John Ruckman, brother. Peter Sturges Ruckman was born physically on November 19, 1921, to John and Mary Ruckman in Wilmington, Delaware.
At a young age the family moved to Topeka, Kansas, where he grew up while going back to Wilmington during the summertime. He had a brother, Johnny, and a sister, Marion. Coming from a long line of military men, he followed in their footsteps by enlisting in the Army and served in World War II as a DI in hand-to-hand combat in the Philippines and spent time in Japan monitoring the radio broadcasts at Radio Tokyo. But at the age of 29 years old, he enlisted in a different Army. A spiritual Army. On March 14, 1949, Dr. Ruckman signed up in the Lord’s Army by accepting Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Savior at the radio station in Pensacola, Florida. He was lead to the Lord by a Baptist preacher, Bro. Hugh Pyle. At one time he wanted to be a “30 year man” and retire from the Army. He now has done over two “30 year hitches” in the Lord’s Army, the “right” Army.
Through the 67 years he has served the Lord, his vision and his burden was to reach lost souls for Jesus Christ and to teach people that we have a Bible that is perfect and infallible, that you can hold in your hands – the Authorized King James 1611 Version. He had a burden especially to reach young men for Christ and get them rooted and grounded in the Word of God so they would be equipped to defend that Book against the agnostic scholars who try to rob you of your faith in your King James Bible. From this desire, Pensacola Bible Institute was started. It continues today from Dr. Ruckman prayerfully and wisely choosing a man, Brian Donovan, to train and equip to carry on the work of the school and church after he has gone on to Glory. Dr. Ruckman had pastored for well over 50 years; including a church in Bay Minette, AL, Brent Baptist Church, and Bible Baptist Church in Pensacola since 1973. He also was the Founder and President of Pensacola Bible Institute which was started in September of 1965. Dr. Ruckman was a man of many talents. He was a Preacher, Teacher, Street Preacher, Artist, Writer, played the tuba and the harmonica, had studied the Oriental religions, studied martial arts – Taekwondo and Aikido, and started playing hockey as a goalie at 68 years old with his last game being on his 84th birthday. He also played racquetball, enjoyed mullet fishing, was an avid reader, liked to garden and had a small “truck farm” as he called it, and was still swimming “laps” with a snorkel at 93. He had a profound knowledge of the Scripture and its correlation with History. God gave him a special gift to be able to tie in world events and History to the Bible. And, then, of course, he dearly loved “kids” and “dogs” (especially German Shepherds!). He loved to have them running all around the place. He loved to see them play and laugh. His special treat was to give the kids gummy bears at each service. And if he ran out (to moms’ horror), he would give them strawberry Twizzlers – or – chocolate!
One of the things dearest to Dr. Ruckman’s heart was his burden and love for doing the Prison Ministry. He looked forward to each time he had an opportunity to go into the jails and minister to the men and women there, especially the yearly 2-week long summer “junkets.” That was his “Christmas.” Words cannot express the appreciation and gratitude for all the love, support, friendship and prayers of so many saints through all the years; some for many years and some just a few. Through many dangers, toils, and snares he has already come. After a fall in 2015 and many months of declining health, he is now at HOME with his Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.
God gave him a “Full Cup.” Arrangements under the direction of Eastern Gate Memorial Funeral Home, Pensacola, FL.


On March 8, 2016, in a blatantly dishonest diatribe against me, James White labeled King James Only advocates as “cultists”. What was his premise? That the King James doesn’t follow the erroneous Granville Sharp rule (“GSR”), which even Dan Wallace admitted is inconsistently applied throughout the NT, and can really be narrowed down to 2 passages (Titus 2:13, and 2 Peter 1:1). Essentially, James White accused the KJV of diminishing the deity of Christ based on these two passages (which he is wrong about anyway even IF he was right about the GSR, which he’s not) Now I have a ton of arguments against this view alone, but only one is necessary to completely blow White’s theory out of the water, and expose him for the dishonest hypocrite that he is.

Here is the most simple, common sense rebuttal to White’s blathering. In numerous responses to KJV advocates who point out that modern versions alter dozens of passages that eliminate the deity of Christ (John 1:18, 1 Tim 3:16, Rom 9:5, 1 Cor 10:9, 1 John 5:7-8, Dan 3:25, etc…), modern versionists like White claim we are mistaken to allege modern versions attack the deity of Christ IF THE DEITY OF CHRIST CAN BE ESTABLISHED BY OTHER PASSAGES. In other words, to White, it is irrelevant that even if KJVO advocates were right about those verses, it doesn’t matter because the charge can not be substantiated that modern versions alter the deity of Christ if His deity can be shown elsewhere.

Now here’s the kicker for that kind of defense against someone who in the same breath accuses KJVO advocates of being “cultists”. Let’s assume for argument’s sake White is right about the GSR in the KJV. IF THE KJV CAN SHOW THE DEITY OF CHRIST CAN BE PROVEN FROM OTHER PASSAGES, THEN WHITE CAN’T REALLY CRITICIZE KJVOS FOR BEING “CULTISTS” NOW CAN HE!! White always claims “inconsistency is the sign of a failed argument”, but he refuses to apply his own rules consistently. If the ability to show the deity of Christ in other places among modern versions vindicates THOSE versions, then how is it that the same analysis doesn’t vindicate the KJV if the deity of Christ can be shown in other passages if White is right about 2 passages where he [erroneously] contends the GSR proves it diminishes the deity of Christ? The deity of Christ in the KJV can be established in John 1:1, John 1:18, Romans 9:5, Matt 1:23, Isaiah 7:4, 9:6, Mark 2:7-10, John 8:58, John 10:31-35, Phil 2:6, Matt 19:6, Col 2:9-10, Heb 1:8, John 20:28, John 8:24, 1 John 5:7-8, 1 Tim 3:16 and a plethora of other OT and NT passages.

White uses equivocation and a special pleading fallacy of applying a rule to vindicate his modern version onlyism on the same grounds that he labels KJVO advocates cultists for. If the existence of the deity of Christ can be found outside of the verses that KJVOs attack modern versions over, then why doesn’t that same rule apply to White’s attacks against the KJV even if he was right about the GSR rule? The answer to that is simple, White knows that KJVOs have a better case against him, and to keep listeners from fairly judging both sides of the issue, he tries to put Bible believing Christians in the same category as other cultists like the Watchtower (in spite of the fact that some of the most aggressive defenders of the King James Bible are 1689 LBC Calvinists, like him). Ironically, the men behind White’s modern version onlyism were avid occultists and rationalists who did not believe in the inerrancy of Scripture (See, Heretics Behind Modern Bible Versions Supported By James White).

Regarding White’s charge about Titus 2:13, the result of White’s absurd assessment is that God permitted the Roman Catholic church to have the accurate readings (stored on library shelves, no less) while the rest of the church “erroneously” relied on these verses to support the Trinity for 1800 years. White claims that it “wasn’t the King James translators faults”, which means that not only were the King James translators ignorant of a 19th century Greek grammar rule in the 17th century, but so, too, was every Bible believing Christian that was martyred over these texts who translated it the same way until a bunch of rationalists decided it should be interpreted differently, rationalists that now include James White and his ilk. Anti King James Only advocates frequently ask us the dumbest question ever, “Where was the Bible before 1611?”, but if you look at their position, NONE OF US HAD IT BEFORE THE “BEST” and “OLDEST” MANUSCRIPTS WERE FOUND BETWEEN 1840-1881.

Dr. James A., PhD
Member Dean Burgon Society



By James A, ThM,

[Updated below with how James White aids a fake Muslim]


On March 8, 2016, “Dr” James White of Alpha & Omega ministries (which is kind of an ironic name for a ministry who endorses a Bible [NASB] that removes “Alpha and Omega” from Revelation 1:11. Revelation 1:11 KJV, Revelation 1:11, NASB) performed a character assassination ritual on his Dividing Line show attacking yours truly, kind of (beginning that the 29:00 mark). His aim was at Dr. James Ach, who has not been at Do Right Christians for nearly a year now (a fact that has been well-known) and thus it is already clear that White didn’t do even the least bit of homework before putting on his papal mitre. White lied several times, used unconfirmed gossip, and blatantly slandered me. This has been par for the course for White, and virtually none of his followers bothered to fact check his assertions (one who tried to, “Jonathon”, was yelled at during the show which you’ll see if you watch it at the 44:50 mark).

I’m going to go point by point and shred White’s bogus diatribe against me which all started over a screenshot I posted about his bogus bike riding stats, which he never adequately answered, and even lied about. But think about this. White has ignored our Twitter account for 3 years. Of all the things he chose to respond to: not Calvinism, not King James Only, not amillennialism, or any of the other things we’ve challenged him on, he chose to get angry over what we posted about his bike riding stats! And this guy calls ME unstable? Matt Estes was right, I DID post it as a joke even though the numbers were actually off, it was White that took it to an entirely different level.

“Big Brother”

White starts off with accusing me of cooperating with “Big Brother” because I reported 2 tweets of his to Twitter API. They suspended his account because they confirmed my allegations that White was publicly accusing me of a crime, the crime of stalking. In White’s world, accusing someone of a crime is not a big deal. In the real world, false allegations of criminal activity can have real consequences to those of us who live in the real world. If anyone was attempting to get “Big Brother” involved in getting a Christian in trouble with the government, it was White, not me.

Secondly, since when did Twitter become a government agency? Is White and his followers so incompetent that they don’t know who “Big Brother” is? White even stated my actions would set a bad precedent that allows government to attack other Christians. This is a major category fallacy since Twitter is a privately owned social media engine, and not an agency of the government. Twitter has some dubious policies, and are especially biased against conservatives, but far from being the FBI, CIA, NSA, State Police, Obama Administration, Department of Justice, local police, Homeland Security, et al. THOSE are Big Brother agencies, NOT TWITTER. It takes the most gullible sycophant to swallow this charismatically emotional driven complaint from White.

Furthermore, White claimed that his “freedom of speech” and First Amendment was infringed upon. I’m sorry, what? Again, a category error where Twitter is not the government of which the First Amendment is directed at (federal, and states through the 14th Amendment). Restrictions or liberties are not enforced by Twitter, they are the responsibilities of governments. Furthermore, First Amendment protections to not protect persons from yelling fire in a movie theater. Free speech does not entitle people to cause riots. If free speech were a carte blanche to say whatever you wanted without exception, there would be no such thing as defamation laws (the legal term that incorporates both slander and libel). White demonstrates he is completely ignorant of law.

Finally, I reported ONLY the tweet that falsely accused me of a criminal act. I did NOT report the vile tweets that ridiculed or vilified me. I reported ONLY the tweets that he posted for Big Brother to see that were false accusations of criminal acts. What White DIDN’T show his followers were the other tweets that were still left on his page, including the ones he sent me calling me evil (yet if I tweet HIM, it’s stalking). Twitter did not delete his comments because I was “afraid” of being “exposed”, but because White made false criminal accusations. Period. White tries to convince others it was based on his content of “exposing” someone, which clearly was not the case.

[We won’t say how White went to “Big Brother” Youtube to get videos of him removed]

Mother’s Basement

At 31:34, White says I’m an anonymous troll (which I have all  my information except my full last name for personal reasons because of something that has happened to my children of which police have yet to do anything about). My college is listed which can be verified, and I have talked with numerous friends on Twitter at length over the phone who know exactly who I am, where I live, what church I go to, etc… Funny however, that White used an anonymous person, “Hakim”, to get most of the dirt he got on Ergun Caner, and endorses several other another anonymous accounts ( one who’s actually an attorney out of Georgia).

But living in my mother’s basement? Seriously? What kind of adult says something like that? And what kind of followers listen to such a childish, immature comment and claps? I thought the days of the ‘your mama” jokes were over.

White continues I am in my mid 30s (I am 43) and never worked a job (even though profile says I have a ThM [recently finished my PhD but thesis hasn’t been graded] and am paralegal). Of course, White here is fishing for information, but he’s still making false assumptions which shows how bad of a psychic he is.

Do Nothing But Attack People

White says I do “nothing but attack people”. He’s an “apologist”. Apologists by nature attack people all day long. White attacks King James Only advocates all the time (even accuses us of being a cult) and non Calvinists whom he claims have “Anti Calvinist Derangement Syndrome”. Do you really think that those of us who believe the deity of Christ, the Trinity, the virgin birth, the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, creation, cessation, salvation by grace through faith, are going to quietly sit by and NOT say something when White travels the world referring to us in the same vernacular he uses to describe Jehovah’s Witnesses? Are you kidding me? We defend ourselves from HIS ATTACKS, and we KJVOS are the ones stalking HIM?

But if James White hounds someone like William Lane Craig, who refuses to debate him because he’s a jerk, then for White, it’s OK.

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James White also chased Ergun Caner for about ten years.

Now I don’t have a problem with White chasing anyone because he’s doing what he thinks is his duty as an apologist to do (for argument’s sake, not that he’s right about the content of what he’s attacking them over). But what I write about White is based on the exact same conviction, yet he applies a different standard for himself. White’s doctrine’s are heretical, dangerous, and misleading Christians all over the world, and I have the same right to call him out as he believes he does to me. But only one of us is accusing the other of “stalking”.

“He Doesn’t Go Out There And Do Debates”

No, I don’t. I go into the highways and hedges and compel them to come (Luke 14:23) because the Bible admonishes that kind of soul winning (Acts 5:42) instead of debating people (Isaiah 58:4, Romans 1:29, Titus 3:10). Soul winning IS a form of debating, but White has people convinced that formal debates are a Biblical standard and a measure of success which is the furthest from the truth. There are a number of reasons why debates are not always successful (which I will explain another time). White, however, uses debates as a rhetorical rebuttal to those who argue with him on any given matter. For example, when White “debated” Chris Pinto, when others ask about the fraudulent Codex Sinaiticus, instead of White (or his followers) answering simple questions in follow up to additional information that has come out, White simply responds, “I debated that subject” and, bam, case closed, don’t question me no more, bro. White points to his debates and declares that he won, and that is supposed to just end the discussion.

Frankly, all of White’s debates are irrelevant because the bulk of the debate is what he says AFTER the debate, and that’s how he designs his debates. This is why White would never win a debate with William Lane Craig because Craig knows how to exploit his many logical fallacies, and why White only challenged Craig on Twitter, instead of calling him or his staff where he knew he could have had a formal discussion about a debate. Craig had to hear about White’s challenge second hand. But White’s followers heard it long enough on his Twitter and his DL show that it was enough for his followers to help his ego by declaring “Looky, Looky, Craig won’t debate White, he’s skeered”. That’s really just how dishonest and egotistical this tyrant is.

Cooperating With Muslims, Atheists, Catholics, Oh My!

This one was particularly rib-tickling. At 32:20, White claims that I follow around URLS where his name is mentioned “anywhere on the internet”, and jump in the conversations to help Muslims, atheists, Catholics, “he don’t care”. Wow. Any proof of that? Of course not. Was there a screenshot? Nope. You mean to tell me White took the time the screenshot my comments about his bike riding stats, but didn’t gather evidence to show how I’m cooperating with Muslims and Catholics? Again, more blatant outright fabrications. Anyone that follows me knows that I have 4 major issues with White: Anti King James, Hyper Calvinism, Amillennialism, and threatening a rape victim.

In fact, I have even AGREED with James White on certain modern day issues like the gay agenda, and EVEN ENDORSED HIS BOOK on the subject. I don’t disagree with White about EVERYTHING and have no problem giving others credit for the things that they get right. Do you think White would have that same sentiment toward me? Of course not. I am mature enough to take the high road when it comes to certain conflicts even though I know my theological adversaries won’t always give me that same courtesy (like White).

Interestingly enough, James White endorses an anonymous account named “Hakim Ramallah”. Hakim, or rather, Jonathan Autry, gives the impression that he is either Muslim or former Muslim-which would make sense given that he was the one Ergun Caner sued because he was one of the anonymous sources James White was using for information on Ergun Caner during the time White was pursuing Caner for claiming to be an ex-Jihadist (and for the record, I don’t believe Caner’s story, either).

So why is White endorsing a fake Muslim Twitter account, particularly after he spent so many years attacking Caner for the same thing, not mention having the gall to accuse me of “supporting Muslims”. What a hypocrite. (Yes, Yes, White trolls, I know, “Hakim’s” level of fakeness isn’t nearly what Caner did. It’s too bad I even have to express that disclaimer since White’s followers don’t appear to see the irony and hypocrisy in just the smallest appearance of evil here).


The Gospel Is Irrelevant to “These People”

By “these people” White is referring to all King James Only advocates, which is kind of ironic considering that one of the most aggressive King James Only advocates that has written extensively about White’s erroneous anti KJVO views is a guy named Will Kinney-A CALVINIST. So while White condemns all KJVO advocates as cultists, one of the rebuttals I have to him and even challenged him to debate with me was proving that KJVOs are cultists when there are many among his own Calvinist brethren who are KJVO. So if all KJVOS are Christ denying, gospel rejecting heretics, that would include 1689 LBC Calvinist confessionalists like Kinney and scores of others (Brandenberg, Pinto etc…)

Independent Fundamental Baptists care far more about the gospel than White, we take it to the streets on a daily basis. It is White who makes it hard for us by criticizing our Bible, our methods, our sincerity, our heritage, and our message (which can be seen in the About Us section, and the above gospel tab, You Die, Then What? By the way, we have a gospel message on our website, where is White’s on his?)

Why Was I Going To Do This In The First Place

White asks a good question, why is he even responding to my graphic about the bike? His harsh reaction is what made it appear he had something to hide. Most narcissists react that way when you call them out over little things.

At first, White accused me of COMPRESSING the graphic. He later accused me of ALTERING it.


Of course, once White tried to explain the numbers, he had to back peddle a little, and lie. The stats I pointed out and deduced were from ONLY the bike riding stats. I was well aware of the other rowing and granny exercises that were part of the chart, and White knows that, it said so on the very graph he used. But that’s a common trick, show your viewer the graphic in plain sight and hope they ignore the noise. White’s numbers were still wrong. But think about it, if White had accused me of ALTERING THE GRAPHIC AT FIRST, why didn’t he attempt to prove the altering he accused me of, instead of crunching the numbers differently?

Oh wait, he did prove one point: that a circle became on oval because I had to make it smaller to fit the entire page with the other graphics. None of his followers blinked an eye at this. The evidence that I altered the graph (remember, he said compressed at first on Twitter) was that the circles were different sizes? Are you kidding me? How does anyone take this guy seriously?

And yes, White was right that the Gran Fonda was cumulative, BUT NOT FOR THAT DAY and he knew exactly what I was talking about. Although the stats were cumulative, I was referring to requirements for a one day event, and included those stats for the week. White even admitted that I was right about the weekly and monthly stats, but he attempted to confuse his readers about the total. I even had bikers messaging me telling me it was weird and that I was right.

But considering that one of White’s tools in his polemics trick bag is to insult people over the grammar or spelling (I don’t use spell checker on EVERY document I post, or 140 character Tweets), if he can dish out petty insults about silly stuff, then why can’t I! The bike issue was not that big of a deal to me. For goodness sake he posts the stuff every day and brags about it. He even spent about 5 minutes ranting about it in the middle of insulting me.

No Accomplishments 45:25

Well there’s a catch 22. If I defend myself from the accusation that I haven’t accomplished anything, then I’ll be accused of bragging about my accomplishments. Apparently, White sees treasures stored on earth as proof of accomplishment. So guess what, White can have that one, because I’d rather be last on earth for Christ than first in my own cause to be seen of men. I spend my days witnessing to people in nursing homes, and passing out tracts throughout Illinois.

This shows that White values earthly success over spiritual rewards. And if that’s the standard of Godliness, that I haven’t written as many books, or engaged in debates, then guilty as charged. I’ll stack the souls I’ve led to Christ against White’s debates, and let God determine who was more “successful”.

I Saved Lives Through Bike Riding

White claims that several people said he saved their lives by inspiring them to work out. This is an emotional argument against what the Bible says about bodily exercise profiting little. Note that I NEVER said that exercise is bad. I work out several times a week, but no more than an hour. Why? Because it’s all that is needed to stay healthy enough to be effective for God, and that is precisely what Paul was talking about in Timothy. James White like every other important verse in the Bible, he just cuts 1 Tim 4:8 right out of the Bible.

James White’s actually setting a BAD example that could RUIN others’ health. I’m not going to take up this response to show the bad effects of lactic acid build up, creatine and glutamine depletion, muscle, joint and lung damage that can occur by over doing what White does. You don’t burn thousands of calories like that without knowing how to manage your diet and supplements (and frankly, White doesn’t look like someone who’s burning up as many calories as he says he is, unless he is a very reckless eater: maybe he can do another show about THAT).


This was an obvious snub at JD Hall of Pulpit and Pen. Now what White didn’t tell his viewers (which I only later found out myself) was that this information came from Tom Buck. The accusation is that JD Hall and I were conspiring together (how about q-ing that conspiracy music White references a few minutes prior!) to “take down” other people. JD Hall and I have never talked, and I have sent him probably a few messages from Twitter about links to SBC issues. JD Hall and I are as different as night and day on a lot of issues, but I agree with his position on the Southern Baptist Convention. Because I have retweeted some of Hall’s articles on gay affirming, abortion isn’t murder defending SBCers that Hall has exposed, I’m now “yoking” with “a certain polemicist”.

However, all that White accused me of came from a second hand source that provided no proof. When I asked Tom Buck to show proof on Twitter, he simply said “God knows and you know”. That’s the age-old “you know what you did” tactic when you know you can’t prove what you said. Yet White ran with it anyway.


Now White followers,  THINK THIS THROUGH FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE. If White is accusing me of having his Twitter account suspended BECAUSE of his tweet threatening to expose me, THEN HIS PROGRAM COULD NOT HAVE BEEN BASED ON THE TWITTER SUSPENSION OVER SOMETHING HE’D ALREADY THREATENED TO DO ANYWAY!!!! Do you folks get that? White had already posted that he was going to do a live show attacking me on March 8, which he posted on March 6. But at 51:00, he says that the REASON he is doing the show is because I got his Twitter account suspended, which didn’t happen until March 9, his threats were March 6.

Unbelievable how none of his followers caught that.


If White has us blocked, then what “vile things” on my Twitter feed is he referring to? Screenshot? Proof? Reference? Example? Link? Nothing. He and his followers accused me with absolutely nothing to show for it.

The only thing that White has ever specifically mentioned as being “vile” is our posting of what his own sister, Patty Bonds, accused him of, which was that he was aggressive and threatening to her when she exposed their father for molesting her. Below is the screenshot we took of her comments on her blog, Abbas Little Girl, before she locked it after James White basically accused her of making the story up as part of a Catholic conspiracy against him. In other words, because she’s now a Catholic, she deserved to be raped. (And yes, this is a very personal issue with me).


White can not argue that a person deserves to get raped because it’s part of his theology (God ordains rape of children):

White threatens his own sister over exposing a pedophile and WE are the “vile” ones?


This is the real issue. White uses every opportunity he can to vilify King James Only advocates by making us look like extremists. By the time you get to the real story, he has you hating me so much you believe anything he says when he gets to his contention.


White NEVER ANSWERED THE ANACHRONISM. He simply backed up, and said in a very general way, “well back 3 pages, it’s talking about Titus 2:13 [I know] and anyone who reads this knows what it’s talking about”. Hello? Anybody home? That’s not an answer. The problem is White has misquoted Robertson and laid the blame for the King James translators on their mistranslating Titus 2:13 (and other places where the GSR rule “applies”. It’s actually used quite randomly, and there’s places where modern versions don’t apply it consistently themselves, but White ignorantly uses the GSR to claim that the KJV undermines the deity of Christ, when it’s clearly the other way around and he knows it. If you believe White’s tripe about the GSR, then God allowed the church to misrepresent the deity of Christ in Titus 2:13 for 1800 years). White knows he goofed. White even defended his comment within the comment itself by claiming that “scholars did not want to fly in HIS FACE”. Again, how could the King James translators, and even up the the 1769 Blayney edition of the 1611 AV (which is the standard now), flown in the face of a man who wasn’t even born until 1789?? WHITE NEVER ANSWERED THIS but did his typical politician song and dance. White knows full well that the last edition of the KJV, and the very edition he attacks most is the 1769 Blayney edition, so he couldn’t have been referring to any AV scholars after 1769. Yet his implication is that all scholars from 1611-1769 were afraid to fly in the face of a man that wasn’t even born yet. Instead of admitting his research was sloppy, or he simply made a mistake, he dodged it. However, this is the same criteria of which he attacked Gail Riplinger on. If her mistakes make her unreliable, then so should White’s.


Part 2 Later This Week


By the way, the day before White’s show, we posted exactly what he was going to say before he said it. He didn’t disappoint!







James A. ThM

One of the most disturbing trends behind the defense of modern “Bible” versions by “scholars” and “apologists” like James White, Daniel Wallace, Bruce Metzger, Norman Geisler, and their ilk is the deliberate omissions in their writings of the rationalists and occultists that laid the foundations for destructive textual criticism. The sycophants of James White often embrace his gibberish about Bible versions without ever bothering to study both sides of the issue, and White uses such vitriolic ad hominem attacks against King James Only Bible believers that he leaves his followers in the dark about the truth behind his influences.

Paul advised Timothy of the importance of knowing who is behind the teachings you embrace: “But continue thou in the things which thou has learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them” (2 Timothy 3:14). Any honest person should be horrified about the men who James White and his ilk endorse to support their attacks on the King James Bible and defense of their Roman Catholic texts.*

Here we will list** just a few of those heretics that James White wants you to trust when he excuses the fact that he can’t point you to a single book on earth or heaven that he can actually say IS the Bible, all the while claiming that he believes in something he calls “THE” Bible-he just can’t tell YOU where you can get your own copy.

Johann Jacob Griesbach (1745-1812)

Griesbach was influenced by a German Rationalist named Johann Semler. Semler did not believe that the entire canon of the Bible was inspired. He promoted the “accommodation theory” that holds one can give a person limited information about the truth because they presently lack the capacity to understand it. Semler taught that the New Testament writers’ miracles were fictitious and only written to appease certain needs of the followers of the apostles. He rejected the inspiration of Revelation calling it “the production of an extravagant dreamer”.

Bruce Metzger claimed that Westcott & Hort never collated any manuscripts, but simply “refined the critical methodology developed by Griesbach, Lachmann, and others, and applied it rigorously” (Metzger, Text of the New Testament, p. 129).

George Vance Smith (1816-1902), Westcott & Hort Revision Committee

Smith was a Unitarian that denied the deity of Christ and the blood atonement, the personality of the Holy Spirit, and the doctrine of the Trinity altogether. Smith did not believe in the inspiration of Scripture. Thousands of clergy protested Smith’s appointment to the revision committee of Westcott and Hort who threatened to quit if Smith was not allowed to remain on the committee.

Ezra Abbot (1819-1884)

Abbot was behind the American Standard Version (ASV) of 1901. He claimed that Christ should not be worshiped. He wrote in a footnote in John 9:3 of the 1901 ASV that Christ was a created being, and made a distinction between Christ (created) and God (Creator).

Eberhard Nestle (1851-1913)

Nestle, of the popular Nestle-Aland Greek New Testament (nearly 30 different editions now), rejected the infallibility of the Bible, and believed it was no more than a normal piece of literature. He claimed that authors of the New Testament never expected their writings to be read by others let alone be taken as the authoritative word of God.

United Bible Society (UBS) Greek New Testament

The UBS, which is highly recommended by James White (along with NA 28, and Westcott & Hort’s critical Greek apparatus), is partnered with the Pontifical Biblical Institute of Rome. One of its leading editors added in 1967 (1967-2002) was a Jesuit priest, Carlo M. Martini. Martini believed in evolution, that the Bible was ordinary literature and embraced numerous New Age philosophies.

The UBS 5 was recently endorsed by Pope Francis. Imagine that! James White and Pope Francis both endorse the 5th edition of the UBS Greek New Testament.

Kurt and Barbara Aland

Partner with Eberhard Nestle (above), he and his wife are also contributors the UBS. Aland does not believe in verbal inspiration of the Bible, and that the Old Testament and the gospels are full of myths that were not inspired by God but merely a naturalistic process. Kurt Aland does not believe that the canon of Scripture is complete or settled.

Bruce Metzger (1914-2007)

Plagiarist Bruce Metzger also denies the infallibility of the Bible. In his notes on the Reader’s Digest Condensed Bible, he rejected the authorship, dates, and supernatural inspiration of books written by Moses, Daniel, Paul, James and Peter. In the 1962 New Oxford Annotated Bible RSV, Metzger opined that the Old Testament is “a matrix of myth, legend and history”. He rejected the flood of Genesis, and said that Isaiah was written by two other authors, and the story of Jonah was a fairytale.

Westcott & Hort

Westcott & Hort led the committee that created a never-before-seen Greek New Testament. They used as their exemplar, the Codex Vaticanus, an abandoned and dusty ms from the shelf of a Vatican library in 1475, “rediscoverd” in the late 1800s (ironically, shortly after the “discovery” of the Codex Sinaiticus), and the Codex Sinaiticus, a forged document by a Greek paleographer named Constantine Simonides in 1840, stolen from the trash room of a Catholic/Muslim*** monastery in Egypt (St. Catherine’s) by Constantine Tischendorf who was wined and dined by Rome for his endeavors. Both are missing entire books of the Bible and have been deliberate altered in thousands of places. Neither of them believed in the infallibility of the Bible.

They belonged to several occult societies and socialist groups, and had an affinity for the Mary of the Catholic. Arthur Westcott writes that upon the finding of a pieta (Roman Catholic statute of Mary holding the dead body of Christ), that BF Westcott stated, “Had I been there alone I could have knelt for hours”. Life and Letters of Brooke Foss Westcott, Vol I, p 81 (1903).

Although much has been written about these men, their greatest influence on the revision committee was the Genealogical Method and Lucian Recension. (For a thorough take down of these two methods, see Wilbur Pickering’s Identity of the New Testament, II, chapter 3) There is no historical evidence to support either one, and Westcott & Hort themselves never applied the genealogical method to their own New Testament. It was only used to attack the Greek Textus Receptus. Not even modern scholars use the method, and yet it, as well as the ghost theory of the Lucian Recension are touted as justifications for the hatchet job that Westcott & Hort presented in 1881 as the “best and oldest” manuscripts.
If taking James White and his ilk seriously, we are to believe that the transmission of the Textus Receptus which was maintained by faithful, persecuted Christians since the inception of the church, was full of errors, mistakes, and deliberate alterations (like those in the Lucian recension which James White rejected my challenge to debate proof for), and was preserved by God through Christ denying heretics who didn’t believe the Bible was infallible or inspired, and who persecuted those who did. We are also led to believe that the church was kept in the dark until 1881 when Tischendorf “discovered” the “oldest” and “best” manuscripts.

KJVO critics often ask the dumbest question ever: “where was the Bible before 1611?”, which we have answered ad nauseum, and it wasn’t sitting on a shelf in a Vatican library collecting dust. But modern version onlyists never answer that same question: where was the Bible before 1881? Did God sandbag the church by hiding the best and oldest manuscripts from the entire church for 1800 years only to cause them to be found by heretics and rationalists on a dusty shelf and a library shared with Muslims in Egypt?

Those of you defending James White who believe his absurd rhetoric about King James Only”ism” need a serious reality check.


*James White will often punt to his “debates” with Roman Catholics as proof that he does not support the Catholic church, but he never calls them to leave the Roman Catholic Church, he never refers to it as a cult (which it is)-of course while referring to King James Only advocates as cultists (many of whom are Calvinists like James White)- he has defended Pope Francis’ statement that Jesus death on the cross was a failure, and he is a staunch advocate for the two Roman Catholic manuscripts that underlie all of the modern Bible versions. James White is also an amillennialist which is the same eschatological heresy taught by the Catholic church. White ignores prophecy debates even though he claims to be an “apologist”. Any apologist who neglects the defense of over half of the Bible is no real apologist (Acts 20:27).

The subtlety of the devil and of the Jesuits is permitting just enough truth to appear orthodox, but leaving out enough that a person is never actually called to repentance and belief of the truth. Catholics frankly don’t care that White “debates” them, so long as White never encourages and of them to LEAVE even though he claims to believe in repentance. And as long as he endorses their Bibles, no honest critic of Catholicism could ever take him seriously that they have a common theological enemy.

** The outline follows chapter 2 of David Cloud’s exhaustive and excellent expose of this subject in For the Love of the Bible. WayofLife.Org

*** It is well known that St. Catherine’s was a Catholic monastery. What modern versionists do NOT tell you is that it was also shared with Egyptian Muslims who had numerous Islamic relics and writings stored there. This probably explains the reason why a 12th Islamic prophecy is scrawled in Arabic on the footnote of Revelation 7-8 on the Codex Sinaiticus. How 12th century Islamic prophecies using 18th Century Arabic writing style ended up on a supposed 4th century ms is an anomaly that James White has continually dodged, telling his followers that I and Dr. James Ach are “the biggest trolls on the internet”, and “beneath contempt



James A, Th.M

It must be nice to be an apologist that gets to write your own rules as to how Christians should conduct themselves amongst each other, and arbitrarily follow those standards yourself. That is James White. I’ll go into a little bit of detail later on because I want to include detailed links, but needed to respond to a Facebook post White posted where he referenced JD Hall and myself*

The melee started with Jordon Cooper’s wife and several of White’s followers complaining that JD didn’t properly cite the author of an article written by someone else, although anyone exercising even a mild modicum of diligence can see the author cited at the bottom of the article, which is how Hall stamps even his own articles.  Hall recently noted that Karen Swallow Prior’s  article claiming abortion wasn’t murder-then it was-then it wasn’t-then it was (after 2 or 3 edits) that KSP, being a communications expert, shouldn’t need to constantly revise her published articles to clarify her nuances. It is obvious that those trolling Hall over this signature issue are attempting to use Hall’s logic against KSP (a grammarian needing to edit her article) against him for exercising poor grammar. Hall’s critics were playing a game by attempting to compare content to form, Hall complained about KSP’s content (whether it’s unchristlike to call abortion murder), and her defenders complained about his format (who signed the dotted line on the article). I know right! Silly. Childish. Petty.

Cooper’s wife chimed in, and Hall mentioned that she was “loud”. James White got tagged in the conversation and accused Hall of “going after someone’s wife” (ignoring the fact this wasn’t her first attack on Hall, and that she commented about him first). In response to White, I posted a Youtube video where James White and his sidekick, Dick Pierce, were making fun of Mormon and Russian women (which he conveniently left out), so White hardly had grounds for falsely accusing someone of “going after someone’s wife”.

Short story done, now to White’s ridiculous and childish Facebook post.

So a bit later I am informed that a certain well known theonomist in a certain well known Reformed area of Facebook responded to my tweet by posting a wild-eyed Muslim’s video about my comments about…Brigham Young’s wives. Now, if that isn’t nutty enough, a while later I am informed that the King of All Internet Trolls, a KJVO of the looniest order, likewise tweeted the same Muslim’s video (and come to think of it, I have never seen the theonomist and the KJVO troll in the same room at the same time!). You just can’t make this stuff up, can you?

First of all, I am not James Ach (there are 2 James A’s on here, I am a graduate of PMI Ministries, Ivy Tech, Blackstone School of Law, and Grace College and currently working on a PhD through PMI).* Nevertheless, I am sick to death of White marginalizing people like this when he preaches to everyone else not to do it. He has chastised all Christians about treating Muslims with respect and not marginalizing all Muslims, and yet he constantly insults those on this website every chance he gets, and anyone who disagrees with him (about anything from Bible versions, to rowing~seriously). White can attack anyone he wants to and it’s apologetics. But you challenge him and it’s “trolling”. White accuses Leighton Flowers of of chasing him to debate Calvinism as a trolling attempt to get notoriety, but when White did the same thing to William Lane Craig and Norman Geisler (and I have over 30 screenshots to prove it) it’s “ministry”.

Second, White did not simply attack Mormon women. He attacked Russian women in general as well with Dick Pierce saying that “Russian women look like Russian men” (35 second mark). However, notice how White shifts the focus with a genetic fallacy (dismissing content solely because of its source regardless of whether it’s true). So I’m KJVO and “nutty” (whatever that means). What does that have to do with White’s own comments posted on Youtube? Nothing. It’s typical White-style marginalization (Funny my last article showing where White is wrong about Islam I stated that White would pull the KJVO card if he read it, so no surprise he did it here.)

Third, I am not a theonomist. Considering that most theonomists are Calvinists (and I don’t know a single one that isn’t- and White, being an amillennialist, isn’t much different) and White knows we are opposed to Calvinism, White’s hints that I am this theonomist is pretty comical (and I’m not even sure White knows what theonomy is). However, so far nobody has been able to find any Facebook post by this “theonomist” that was posted before my post on Twitter. Yet White is giving the impression that the theonomist and I are the same person. Conspiracy theory much, Mr. White? White is also equating when he found out about the posts with the timing they were actually posted, so he doesn’t have enough sense to know that just because he heard about my post later, that my post on Twitter could have been posted first before the “theonomist” posted it on Facebook. And White calls me nutty!

Now, I should point out that, of course, pointing out the objective fact that polygamy in Utah was a real mess, and, that Brigham Young married a number of very homely women, has nothing whatsoever to do with the modern situation. In case no one noticed, Brigham Young, and all of Brigham Young’s wives, are deceased. Dead. Long gone.

Now if he would only use that standard for those who criticize John Calvin’s treatment of Servetus (and the 47 other people Calvin had killed). If it’s OK to talk about people who are dead and gone, then White shouldn’t have any more issues when others criticize his dead heroes. Nevertheless, as was already noted, it wasn’t just the Mormon women being referred to, it was also Russian women in general, and I never heard where White was referring to any “dead and gone” Russian women.

It doesn’t matter if they were dead, he was referring to their appearances as women, not merely Mormon women. It was a degrading and insulting comment about women, period. White repeatedly tells others that it’s wrong to insult Mohammad, but why not? He’s dead and gone! According to White’s brilliant logic, it should be “game on”, right?

So the theonomist either proved himself really bad at that logic thing, or, more likely, was just goofing around, and proved himself bad at the humor thing. It had never even crossed my mind to wonder if the Lutheran fellow was married

So it never crossed White’s mind whether this Lutheran fellow was married, and yet White stated emphatically that Hall went after his WIFE. Who’s the one with a logic problem again?

White closes with this genius excuse,

If there are no homely women, there are no beautiful women, either. Just that simple. And now for the documentation:

So I guess someone has to be ugly, right! Without ugly women, there’d be no beautiful women. Apparently, God elected some women to be ugly so there’d be an elect class of beautiful women, heh! That’s one of the worst contrasting either/or fallacies I’ve ever read. In fact, White even posted pictures of his contentions to double down on his comments from the Youtube video.

The bottom line is that while White preaches that “inconsistency is the sign of a failed argument”, he demonstrates over and over (and over, and over, and over, and over) that he’s perfectly OK with being consistently inconsistent. White lashes out the most at those who consistently call him out on it.**

If you’re going to be a jerk, then at least be a consistent one, and stop telling others not to do what you do so freely on a daily basis.


*Regardless of the issues I have with Dr James Ach, White doesn’t hold a candle to that man’s knowledge of manuscript issues, Hebrew and Greek languages (even correcting White once on a mistranslated Hebraism), and in fact, posed questions to White about Codex Sinaiticus that White to this day has never answered, nor has White ever responded to the anachronisms that Ach pointed out in his KJVO Controversy book. So White has a vested interest in preventing people from reading anything written by Ach or any of the rest of us because Ach repeatedly put him in his place on both the KJVO issues and Calvinism.

**Of course, JD Hall and I don’t agree theologically anymore than James White and Michael Brown do. But it’s OK for White to have agreement with Brown on social and/or political issues, but wrong for me to agree with JD Hall on social issues in the SBC where you would expect White to have more discernment against their support of feminism, Catholicism, animal rights activism; where Hall has nailed it, and White has coddled Hall’s antagonists, and for the most part remained silent since his initial post about Karen Swallow Prior (which to White’s credit, was brilliant). Once he realized that he had a large amount of followers (like Tom Buck and Frank Turk) that also like KSP and refuse to call her to repentance, White threw Hall under the bus.


Dr James Ach and J/A (PMI PhD Student)

Lest anyone deem my response as unkind, I’m going to begin this article by showing how Colby Bonham treated Matthew Flynn (the subject of this article), so that nobody whines when I treat Colby’s article with the same fervor in which he treated Flynn’s.

I hope you have the discernment to see the idiocy of Mr. Flynn’s argument.

Although I’ve had this debate a million times- and no KJVO (King James Version Only) critic has ever raised a logical or Biblical defense to their criticism of the KJVO position on Psalm 12- from time to time some buffoon thinks he’s smarter than God and can just rewrite the Scriptures-in any language-and even alter basic rules of grammar-in any language.

Some Bible corrector named Colby Bonham decided to send me a link to his blog in response to an argument he had with another Twitter friend who is KJVO. The blog can be found here  . This is not a new attack on Psalm 12, but certainly one of the worst I’ve ever seen. The logic employed here is a stretch even for critics like James White and Daniel Wallace. But for the sake of a few of my friends that this guy repeatedly harasses, I’m going to peel his onion blog.*

Colby first states his goal is not to “critique KJVO position in its entirety”, but yet he maintains that anyone who holds to the KJVO view is mislead, dangerous, and teaching false doctrine. If that’s not a critique of the KJVO position in its entirety I don’t know what is.

I can’t speak on the points where he is apparently rebutting “Flynn’s” arguments because I do not have access to that blog’s content, so I will simply respond to the errors of Colby’s attacks on the KJVO position and specifically his ridiculous arguments on Psalm 12:6-7.

Traditional King James Only View of Psalm 12:6-7

Most people who understand the Bible and take it literally view Psalm 12:7 as referring to the words of the LORD in verse 6. When read naturally line upon line and in the normal flow of context and syntax, that’s how the passage reads. The words of the LORD are the natural antecedent of what God preserves. However, Bible correcting “scholars” have introduced a monkey wrench into this passage by claiming that it what God preserves are the poor of Psalm 12:5 instead of the words of the LORD of verse 6.  Colby is one of such that takes this foolish position and we shall dismantle his major errors below.

Colby  Error #1 Purified Silver

Colby admits that there is some symbolism used here. But he misses the point and presumes that “KJVOS assume God’s word needs purifying”. That’s the DUMBEST thing I’ve ever heard, and a blatant strawman attack that no KJVO holds to. Yes, the silver is a finished product being compared to the words of the LORD, but the TRYING OF THE SILVER isn’t to purify God’s words, it’s the process of bringing them to light to US.

Now I am not so dogmatic as to boldly claim that Psalm 12 refers to 7 translations prior to the KJV in 1611. I think it is certainly a shocking coincidence, but not one that I can claim with certainty. I think Laurence Vance has offered some convincing arguments for it, but it’s not a position that I am convinced is a MUST or necessity for a KJVO advocate. What I CAN claim with certainty is that Psalm 12:7 is a reference to the words of the LORD, not the poor of verse 5. More on that later but Colby was not merely attacking this view, but cited Doug Kutilek’s article in support of his argument in which Kutilek attacks the entire view that Psalm 12:7 is not a reference to the words of the LORD at all, and also, the commentators cited by Colby support this view as well.

Thus for Colby to claim that he is merely attacking the KJVO position of Psalm 12:7 as being a prophetic reference to the English translations that preceded the KJV is disingenuous and dishonest in light of the resources he cited in support of his position that ALL agree with each other (with the exception of a few that Colby misquoted), that Psalm 12:7 refers to “the poor” instead of the words of the LORD of Psalm 12:6. Colby is in fact attacking 2 different positions even though he claims to only be attacking one. This is an obvious attempt to “win by default” where if there is shown disagreement among even KJVOs and other commentators on Psalm 12 regarding the versions preceding the KJV, then by default that means Psalm 12:7 is not a reference to the words of the LORD. Quite a deceptive sleight-of-hand indeed.

Colby  Error #2 Hebrew Grammar

Naturally, as an Israeli born Hebrew speaking Jew, this one got my attention. I was eagerly waiting for the punch line of Colby’s devastating Hebrew analysis, and it never materialized. When I asked him where it went? He replied on Twitter “I never said I knew Hebrew”. Wait! Yes you did. You said, “The rules of Hebrew grammar prove that KJVOs are wrong on Psalm 12”. It’s one thing to quote someone else and claim that THEY SAID Hebrew grammar rules support their view, quite another to assert it as a fact of your argument when you admittedly don’t know Hebrew.

Colby cites Doug Kutilek, someone who’s NOT a Hebrew scholar, just a KJVO critic that many of us have dealt with before. Kutilek’s only real challenge offered where grammar is concerned is that the pronominal suffix in “keep them” a masculine gender and “the words of the LORD” (v6)  feminine in gender, and so he concludes the “them” must be a reference to the “people” of verse 5.

Gesenius, a Hebrew scholar, states,

“Through a weakening in the distinction of gender … masculine suffixes (especially in the plural) are not infrequently used to refer to feminine substantives (E Kautzsch, ed,Gesenius’ Hebrew Grammar, 2nd ed by A E Cowley [Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1910], 440, sect O).

Other examples include, Genesis 31:8-9, “Thus God hath taken away the cattle of your [masculine plural pronoun suffix—refering to Rachel and Leah] father, and given them to me.”;  Genesis 32:15, “Thirty milch camels with their [masculine plural pronoun suffix—referring to the 30 female camels] colts, forty kine, and ten bulls, twenty she asses, and ten foals.”; Exodus 1:21, “And it came to pass, because the midwives feared God, that he made them [masculine plural pronoun suffix — a reference to the midwives] houses.

Speaking on the remainder of grammar issues, Quek Suan Yew from Far Eastern Bible College states:

Anti-preservationists also argue that the pronominal suffix in “preserve them” (v7b) is in the singular, and so the KJV translators were wrong to render it as “them” (plural). It is true that the pronominal suffix for “preserve them” in verse 7b is a third person masculine singular suffix (him). Why did the KJV translators translate it as “them?” The answer is in the attaching of the energetic nun (the Hebrew letter n) to the pronominal suffix. When this occurs an additional rule applies in the Hebrew language. It is important to note that there is no masculine plural pronominal suffix in the third person when the energetic nun is applied to a verb (see Gesenius, 157-8,l sect 4, I). Hence the Scripture writer, through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, used the singular masculine pronominal suffix, retaining the same gender as in “keep them” in verse 7a. It is again very legitimate and consistent with Hebrew grammar for the KJV translators to translate the masculine singular pronominal suffix with the energetic nun as a masculine plural pronoun — “them.”

When we speak of context, it is the immediate context that is considered first, and not the distant context. The immediate context speaks of the words of the Lord. Hence the preservation and keeping (guarding) would be the words of the Lord. We know that the grammar and syntax allow it. Verse 6 is what is known as an emblematic parallelism where the purity of God’s Word is likened to the sevenfold purification (as pure as you can ever get) process of purging silver of every bit of dross leaving behind the purest silver (see Tremper Longman III, How to Read the Psalms [Downers Grove: InterVarsity Press, 1988], 100). This verse teaches that the words of the Lord are without error or fallibility and it is 100% perfect.

Verse 7 is known as a synonymous parallelism where the second line restates what is mentioned in the first, but using different words (Longman III, 99). As mentioned before, the use of the energetic nun emphasises the act of preservation. This preservation is forever. The relationship between verses 6 and 7 is what we callsynthetic parallelism where the second verse adds or expands on the teaching mentioned in the first verse. These two verses combined teach that the words of God are forever perfect; like silver purified seven times, they will be preserved by God for eternity.

The contrast within the psalm would be the words of these evil men versus the words of the Lord. These evil men speak vanity and flattery (v2), and boast that their words will prevail and no one is lord over them (v4). The psalmist counters this by declaring that it is the words of the Lord that will prevail over the words of the evil ones. This is the assurance and comfort that the Lord gives to His people. Do not fear the words of these evil flatterers and boasters; trust in the words of the Lord that is purified seven times as opposed to the words of the evil men which are vain, proud and stem from a double heart (v2). God will keep (guard) His holy words and preserve (action is emphasised by the energetic nun) them from this generation forever. The Lord gave this verbal assurance to that generation and after because He knew they needed it. God’s people were distressed by the many wicked and confusing words that came from proud and evil men. But the thrice holy and perfect God encouraged His people by reminding them that His words and promises are ever true and will forever remain.

Published in The Burning Bush, Volume 10 Number 2 (July 2004)

Furthermore from Gesenius,

“The suffix gains still more strength, when instead of the union-vowels there is inserted between it and the verb a union-syllable n-, which, when the syllable has the tone, becomes n- (commonly called Nûn epenthetic or Nûn demonstrative), which, however, occurs only in the Imperfect and chiefly in pause, e.g. yebarkenehu he will bless him (Ps. 72,15)… This Nûn is, however, for the most part incorporated with the suffixes, and hence we get a new series of forms … Rem. The uncontracted forms with Nûn written distincly are rare and only poetic (Ex. 15,2) Deut. 32,10, Jer. 5,22,, 22,24) and do not occur at all in 3 fem. sing. and 1 plur. The contracted forms (with the Nûn assimilated) are rahter frequent also in prose, especially in pause (very seldom -nu as first pers. pl. Hosea 12, 5) This Nûn is of a demonstrative nature, and gives more emphasis to the word, and is therefore chiefly found in pause. But it occurs also in the union of the suffixes with certain particles.” Gesenius’ Hebrew Grammar, London: Asher & Co., 1903, p. 146. 

Interesting that the NASV altered the nun form in Psalm 12:7 even though they followed the rules in hundreds of other places (In Genesis alone Genesis  5:29; 9:5; 21:13; 42:4; 42:15; 43:9; Ex 21:29; 21:33; 22:21; 22:26; 23:4; 23:29; 25:2; 25:11; Le 1:3; 1:10; 3:1; 6:5; 7:6;  13:11; 13:44; 13:55; 13:57; 17:9; 23:11; 25:49; 25:53; 27:8; 27:10; 27:33; Nu 6:9; 9:16; 18:13; 22:6; 23:13; 23:25; 24:9; 24:17; 30:13; De 7:26; 12:15; 12:16; 12:18; 12:22; 12:24; 12:25; 13:9; 14:27; 15:8; 15:12; 15:13; 15:20; 15:21; 15:22; 15:23; 20:5; 20:6; 21:23; 23:21; 25:3; 28:30; 28:48; 30:13; 31:14-Thank you Brandon Staggs).

The masculine pronominal suffixes “them (תשׁמרם)”/”him (תצרנו)” and the feminine “words (אמרות)” are not an uncommon unpaired match and in this context when it is semantically masculine as a whole phrase (“אמרות יהוה”) the entire phrase takes on a masculine construction.

For more examples and a THOROUGH Hebrew analysis of the grammatical issues of Psalm 12:6-7 see Dr. Thomas Strauss

For a thorough response to Doug Kutilek’s butchering of Psalm 12, see Will Kinney, Answering Doug Kutilek’s anti- Preservation in Psalms 12

We also won’t mention that Kutilek relies much on “19th century Simon Patrick”, who lived from 1626-1707, hardly “19th century”, or how Doug lied about Rashi’s claims about Psalm 12:7 never referencing the words of the LORD, but who said Doug was good with FACTS!

See also Gender Discord by Kent Brandenburg and Sam Gipp Is the King James Bible inspired or preserved?

Colby Error #3 The King James Translators View of Psalm 12

Apparently, Colby seems to think that the KJV translators share his view of Psalm 12. He has obviously never seen the footnote in the 1611 KJV in context with the verse, “Heb. him. i. every one of them“. The translators knew it was grammatically singular and translated the pronoun as semantically plural in reference to the masculine being THEM-the words of God! For whatever reason Colby doesn’t get the footnote reference by the KJV translators. (More below as to the grammatical nature used here.)

Colby Error #4 Commentators Vs Hebrew Scholars

Colby seems to think that a person who blogs about KJVOs or writes commentaries qualifies as an expert in Hebrew grammar. He can’t seem to tell the difference between a textual scholar, linguistic expert, and a commentator.

But let’s look at the logic of some of the commentators.

Colby cites the Pulpit Commentary as follows:

Ver. 7. — Thou shalt keep them, O Lord. God having promised to set the righteous, who are oppressed, in a place of safety (ver. 5), the psalmist is sure that he will keep them and preserve them from the wicked“generation,”  which has possession of the earth, and bears rule in it

First of all, NOWHERE in Psalm 12 are the poor referred to as “the righteous”.  This is eisegetical suicide invented to make Psalm 12:7 fit their view. God commanded Israel to be courteous to the poor because they themselves were oppressed and strangers in Egypt.  Deut 15:11, 23:5-7, Ex 23:6. In fact, Deut 15:11 shows a distinction between “thy brother” and “the poor”. Just because God defends the poor doesn’t mean they are saved. More on this point later.

Furthermore, when David wrote Psalm 12, Israel was the dominant kingdom of the earth, not their enemies. Israel was not taken into captivity until well after Saul, David, and Solomon were memories. So to claim that Psalm 12 is about keeping the “righteous” away from the wicked who are IN POSSESSION AND RULE THE EARTH is a blunder of mammoth proportions because no wicked nation ruled the earth at that time, Israel did.

Colby erroneously relies on a handful of commentators to prove that the historicity of commentators debunks the KJVO position. That is just patently absurd. In the same breath, the existence of just as many commentators who say otherwise would therefore vindicate the KJVO position.

John Wesley, June 5, 1765 says,

Psalm 12:6. Pure-Without the least mixture of falsehood; and therefore shall infallibly be fulfilled.

V.7. Thou shalt keep them-Thy words or promises: these thou wilt observe and keep, both now, and from this generation for ever.

Noah Webster,

“Webster’s 1833 translation, and the Lesser Bible 1853 – “Thou shalt keep THEM, O LORD, thou shalt preserve THEM from this generation for ever.”

Dr. G. Campbell Morgan,

The psalmist breaks out into praise of the purity of His words, and declares that Jehovah will ‘keep them’ and ‘preserve them.’ The ‘them’ here refers to his words. There is no promise made of widespread revival or renewal. It is the salvation of a remnant and the preservation of His own words which Jehovah promises.” Exposition of the whole Bible, Psalms, pg 32

Hebrew Scholar J.H. Eaton,

…but we may rather follow the main Hebrew tradition: “Thou O Lord shalt keep them (i.e. watch over the words to fulfill them, Jer. 1:12)…” (Torch Bible Commentaries, 1967). [Confirming that the interpretation of ‘thou shalt keep them’ as referring to the words of God was in fact, established Hebrew tradition].

David Guzik, Study Guide for Psalm 12, 2008,

B.1.(b). You shall keep them, O LORD, You shall preserve them: This was David’s declaration of confidence in God’s ability to preserve His own words. He did not only give His word to mankind; His providential hand has protected the existence and integrity of His word through the centuries.

Trinitarian Bible Society,

Furthermore, since these Scriptures were placed near the ark, in theheart of the tabernacle or temple, they were separated from all common books. They were manifestly declared to be holy. Certainly, God’s written Word is pure and sublime. It is truth, without any mixture of error. “The
words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times” (Psalm 12:6).” Malcom H. Watts, The Lord Gave the Word, 1998, page 5.

Henry Ainsworth (1526)

the sayings” [of Psalm 12:7] are “words” or “promises” that are “tried” or “examined” “as in a fire.”

Dr. W. Gary Crampton,

Textual criticism over the last century has moved away from the textual critical principles of the Reformers and Puritans that was grounded in the doctrines of inspiration and preservation, and has led the church astray. We have been told that a few texts upon which the new translations are based are better than the majority of texts upon which the King James and the New King James versions are based. As this article has shown, however, this is not true. The Westcott-Hort critical text is not dependable. As Pickering wrote, it is unproved at every point. Neither the Westcott-Hort theory nor the Modern Critical Text theory of eclecticism (often called “reasoned eclecticism”) can rationally claim to believe that God has providentially preserved His Word throughout the centuries. Any view that disclaims passages such as Mark 16:9-20, John 7:53-8-11, and 1 John 5:7 (which have been “received” as a part of the New Testament for centuries) shows this to be the case. When God tell us that He will preserve His Word for us from generation to generation, as He does in Psalm 12:7; 119:152, 160; and Isaiah 40:8, then He will do so, because He “is not a man that He should lie” (Numbers 23:19).” Crampton: Bart D. Ehrman & Daniel B. Wallace in Dialogue: The Reliability of the New Testament

For more scholars on Psalm 12:7, see David Cloud’s exhaustive research in For the Love of the Bible.

Suffice it to say “history” is not on Colby’s side because common sense would tell us that if history itself was the benchmark, then the earliest comment wins, and the evidence shows that the earlier commentators and Hebrew scholars (as opposed to Colby’s citation of recent ones) supported the Psalm 12:7 view as applied to the words of the Lord of verse 6. The paradigm shift in Psalm 12:7 among some scholars is a recent one, certainly not a “historical” position.

Colby Error #5 The Benjamin Wilkinson Fallacy

Most KJVO critics erroneously blame a 7th Day Adventist for many of the KJVO claims bypassing the common sense notion of figuring out where Wilkinson got HIS ideas from. They weren’t original, and in fact, even James White admits that most of what Wilkinson wrote in defense of the Textus Receptus and King James Version he got from An Inquiry Into the Integrity of the Greek Vulgate by Dr. Frederick Nolan  (1784-1864) (White’s critique of Wilkinson’s book). Thus the claims made by Wilkinson were derived from a CALVINIST nearly 100 years BEFORE Wilkinson wrote his book. The idea of 7-fold purification was also mentioned by G. Campbell Morgan well before Wilkinson.

The very fact that Colby quotes John Gill who died in 1771 (long before Wilkinson was born) who shows his disagreement with Aben Ezra on Psalm 12 shows that there were Hebrew scholars that held this position long before Benjamin Wilkinson.

This is a classic “guilt by association” fallacy. The KJVO critics ignore the fact that a large amount of KJV translators were Calvinists and pick out folks like a 7th Day Adventist to slander the KJVO position. Granted, KJVOs have done this with the beliefs of Westcott & Hort, but neither of these men believed that the Scriptures were infallible and/or perfectly preserved and thus at this point what they believed made quite a difference in their bias in translation whereas in spite of the different views among the KJV translators, what they all DID have in common was that the word of God was preserved and was the final authority on all matters of faith and practice, hardly the same view held by the Catholic Bible translators (including the lesbians on the NIV committee).

What is really silly about this accusation is that there’s not one 7th Day Adventist today that holds Wilkinson’s position. In fact, the 7DA publication “Amazing Facts” is adamantly opposed to King James Only advocacy.

Nevertheless, when it comes to associations, I can hardly think of any worse association than a manuscript that is named after the Vatican (Codex Vaticanus) and a Roman Catholic owned monastery (St. Catherine’s, Codex Siniaticus) -both of which are the primary underlying texts that make up the critical text apparatus and all modern versions (including the Jehovah’s Witnesses ‘New World Translation’)- by those who claim to oppose the Roman Catholic Church.

Colby Error #7 God Never Uses Exclusiveness of Language

For nearly 2000 years, God used ONLY the Hebrew language to preserve and communicate His word to Israel. To claim that it is wrong for KJVOs to expect others to learn English because God wouldn’t require that of anyone defies the fact that that’s EXACTLY how God operated for 2,000 years. English is the universal language. It is impossible to conduct international business without knowledge of English. It is even impossible to get the right time zone without setting it to the standard of Greenwich, England. Why is that the rest of the world is fine with learning English for business and trade, but the KJVO critic is opposed to it for learning the Bible?

Moreover, it is even more absurd to claim that instead of learning English, the only way to truly know the Bible is to have a thorough knowledge of Greek and Hebrew. In other words, KJVO critics, in chastising us for expecting others to learn English, expect everyone else to learn TWO different languages in order to “properly” interpret and convey God’s “original” meaning.

This silly argument also ignores the fact that the KJV has been translated into hundreds of other languages. Thus the KJV is NOT JUST AN ENGLISH TRANSLATION. A little gloss that KJVO critics frequently (deliberately in my opinion) ignore.

Critics forget that God is the one that confounded the languages of man in the first place (Genesis ch 11). God did not WANT there to be common communication. He reserved ONE LANGUAGE for His people (Hebrew: and for the idiots who argue “you left out Aramaic”, Aramaic is a form of Hebrew, genius). There’s no reason to dismiss God using an exclusive GENTILE language during the times of the Gentiles.

Other Ridiculous Questions by Colby

“Why would God allow His people to remain in such an error all the way up until 1930?”

Considering that his ‘camp’ of Bible agnostics say the same thing about Codex Siniaticus and Codex Vaticanus, this is quite the accusation coming from KJVO critics. Let me explain. Critics like James White and ..well…every other KJVO critic and modern version proponent claim that neither Erasmus nor any of the KJV translators had the manuscripts available to them that were available to the Westcott & Hort Revision Committee that released their critical text and “revision” between 1881-1885. Thus according to all KJVO critics, not only did the KJV translators not have the word of God in 1611, neither did anyone else until at least the discovery of Codex Sinaiticus in 1859 by Constantine von Tischendorf, which gave credence to Codex Vaticanus, both of which the Revision Committee used to rewrite the Greek New Testament and overthrow the Textus Receptus.

In other words, the position that critical text scholars and their fans take against the KJVO is the exact same position that should equally apply to their own position. But of course, KJVO critics are never consistent in their accusations. They make the absurd claim that KJVO proponents don’t think the word of God showed up until 1611, yet their own position doesn’t allow for the complete word of God to be discovered until over 200 years later, and published in 1865.

Furthermore, critics like James White chide KJVO advocates for not being ‘open minded’ enough to accept new discoveries. So like the evolutionist, new discoveries may some day prove that evolution is true, and shame on those closed-minded creationists for accepting as truth -right NOW- that the matter of creation is settled without one more bit of “scientific evidence” needed to vindicate creationism. For the KJV Bible critic, the issue of preservation is never settled. In fact, it is this very point that Muslims have used against James White to reinforce their attacks against the Bible. (See proof in our article “Jesus Didn’t Forgive Them” with Will Kinney , and video evidence citing by a Muslim).

For more, see Will Kinney’s Where Was The Bible Before 1611?

God Only Preserved His Word In the “Original Languages”

An oldie but a goodie. This is the Alexandrian Cult’s favorite line. Nevermind that Moses destroyed the originals that God made of the Ten Commandments, or a king destroying the “original” in Jeremiah 36, or that God reveals that COPIES of His word were still inspired Scripture (See Deut 17:18). While Colby uses a childish argument such as “where does the Bible say Psalm 12 refers to the King James”, there’s nothing in the Bible that says inspiration and preservation are limited to the “original languages”, and for that matter, where does the Bible mention NIV, ESV, ASV, NASB? #StupidArgument. If it were limited to God’s spoken words, then there are spoken words that John admits were never recorded that should actually be a part of Scripture, but they’re not. John 21:25. This Alexandrian logic leaves us with a blatant contradiction in the promise of preservation if preservation meant that ONLY God’s “original” spoken words were to be Scripture.

Apparently it is “OK” for the KJV to change/eliminate words, but it is not “OK” for the modern translations to change/eliminate words.

The KJV corrected printing errors and updated some of the language. That is NOT what modern versions have done, and every KJVO critic knows that. Changing a middle English “f” to a modern English “s” isn’t the same as eliminating an entire half of a chapter (Mark 16:9-21), or whole verses (Acts 28:29, 1 John 5:7-8, Acts 8:37), or making changes like “The Son of God” (KJV) to “a son of the gods” (All others) in Daniel 3:25. The modern versions are making corrections that alter the text from a Greek text that has been fabricated by Bible hating scoffers influenced by German Rationalists. THAT is the issue, and these KJVO critics are well aware of that, but they attempt to cloud the issue by comparing the changes the KJV translators made to the deliberate alterations and corruptions made by modern versions since 1881.

Forget of course, that KJV translators as well as Erasmus rejected many manuscripts as corrupt. That tells you that men of the Reformation discriminated against manuscripts they believed were corrupt. But today even many of those who call themselves Reformers scoff at the idea of choosing one manuscript over another or labeling ANY of them as corrupt. The one thing that the Reformers had in common was they all knew what a corrupt Greek, Hebrew, and Latin manuscript looked like, and refused to acknowledge it/them as the word(s) of God. It is only in recent times that this centuries accepted practice since the foundation of the church has been questioned, shunned, and anathematized in the church. Anyone today who practices the same textual discrimination that ALL of the early churches did is labeled “divisive”.

For more on the preposterous logic of “originals only” arguments, see Will Kinney’s Can Translations Be Inspired? 

 The Absurd Conclusion: Salvation of All Poor People

The conclusion we are left with if Colby’s (and his citations) are taken seriously is that all poor people are saved without exception or distinction: universalist salvation of all poor and oppressed. Colby did not offer any proof that God preserved any of the poor forever. Common sense and logic would tell us that for a person to be preserved forever they would have to be saved, yet according to the logic of KJVO critics, we can bypass the gospel and just become poor enough to be eternally secure. No repentance, no faith, no belief in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ, ignore the deity of Christ, because according to this view of Psalm 12, poverty=salvation. Colby & Co have invented an exemption to the gospel for the poor, not to mention that the poor are then purified by fire in a furnace of earth!

This is the kind of “scholarship” and “logic” you deal with from MVO (Modern Version Onlyist) and “Original Onlyist” Googleogians. The clear and obvious antecedent to “thou shalt preserve THEM” is not a skip over verse 6 as if it’s just a parenthetical side comment, but a reference to the words of the LORD being preserved forever. It is obvious why greedy for filthy lucre scholars don’t want evidence of preservation, because it allows them to continue setting themselves up as the authority on the Bible, and to add to the word of God when they see fit. The Bible then can’t be added to or new discoveries uncovered to reveal some altering revelation that would revolutionize Christianity if Psalm 12:7 shows that God is the one that keeps and preserves His words. It also emphasizes man’s self efforts to maintain God’s words instead of having any real faith in God’s ability to transmit His own Scriptures. It is the Jesuit method of replacing the Dark Ages priest with the modern day “scholar” (Malachi 2:12).

Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. Matthew 24:35

For ever, O Lord, thy word is settled in heaven. Psalm 119:89


*It is interesting, as a side-note, that one of the first observations I had made about Colby’s blog was his erroneous use of descriptions of logic. He had initially referred to “laws of logic” as #1 being “law of contradiction”. He vehemently argued with me that this was correct even though no Christian scholar from Geisler to William Lane Craig uses it. Colby has now changed his blog to reflect the proper term, “Law of NON contradiction”. It is called the law of NON contradiction because the law asserts that truth does NOT contradict truth. Law of contradiction would imply that contradictions are necessary elements of logic.

Colby also doesn’t seem to grasp what logical fallacies are. The simple explaining of a contradiction does not itself identify what the logical fallacy is. Not all logical fallacies apply to the categorical syllogisms that Colby seems to be referring to. The law of Non Contradiction simply shows that a thing can not be both A and be NOT A at the same time. That is not the definition “logical fallacies”. Yet in all of Colby’s parading his new found Googlisms, he failed to expound on any known logical fallacies as applied in his arguments.

Colby also seems to think he was victorious in that I had “blocked” him a month or so ago (Ignored. If Colby had actually bothered to check he isn’t blocked, he just assumed so because I obviously never responded to him because I didn’t see any of his comments). My “blocking” him then had nothing to do with any inability to respond, but because every comment he made even if it was about which topping to put on a sandwich had my named tagged to it, and with 70 thousand followers it’s a little hard to follow comments when one person yields over 100 notifications that have nothing to do with a conversation I am involved in.



Calvinists are known for inventing theological definitions that are not in Scripture, but it seems James White is now inventing terms that are neither Scriptural nor sociologically supported, at least not in the way he attempted to define (or lack of defining thereof) “culturally black church” on his October 23, 2014 podcast from the Alpha & Omega Ministries. We did not jump on this  until we heard  both sides of the issue. But after discussing the matter with “Fresh Word” we decided this needed to be published.

Most of White’s followers didn’t blink an eye, but one follower noticed the faux pas, and said something to White about it. In response, James White brushed this black man off as being “hyper-sensitive”.

I might have listened to my last DL. “you’re not likely to hear the gospel at culturally black Baptist Church” -Dr James White

What’s unique about this is that “Fresh Word” is not a James White critic, but an avid supporter of White’s ministry.

White defended his remarks by claiming that:

And what passes for the “black church” is more often a social club and a political base than it is anything else.

White followed this conversation up on October 27, with a podcast on his website, and the clean up is MUCH DIFFERENT than the first time he discussed it and had his “Freudian Slip”.


White attempted to clarify that what he was referring to was the kind of “black church” that is politically motivated and not gospel motivated.  Although he didn’t mention Al Sharpton, or Jessie Jackson, in which we would AGREE that such “ministers” use the “race card” as a political and social tool disguised in religious rhetoric, White did nothing to prove that such was the case with the subject (Shadid Lewis) in which he was referring to. White’s ONLY criteria was that the church was black, and that an apostate man left the church because the preacher picked up a saxophone.

I described what Shadid experienced—if you want to take offense and identify with some guy breaking out a sax during his….sermon” and jamming with the band as a fine example of the Christian church…hey, I can’t stop you!

So in other words, if the church is predominately black, then it’s CULTURALLY BIASED. I wonder what he says about the churches that his Calvinist friend Voddie Bauchum speaks at (See photo below). Apparently, White doesn’t know that much about black churches. It is not uncommon for black preachers to “break out” in song in the middle of a service or play along with a choir, even in black Baptist churches. Whether White likes or agrees with it or not, there ARE cultural differences between blacks and whites (thanks to the restrictions that white Calvinist slave owners-among many others- imposed on them, and their treatment in America where they were not allowed to identify with American culture), and just because a black implements something in their church that is CULTURALLY DIFFERENT from a white church doesn’t mean you use that difference to distinguish what is or is not a gospel-preaching church.

What James White did was broadbrushed ALL black churches as culturally biased based on the testimony of one man that he deemed an apostate, and the only evidence White offered to identify even THAT church as a non-gospel church was….the preacher picking up a saxophone. Now, as odd as that may be, to someone who doesn’t understand the climate of that church or culture, that does not prove that it is not a gospel believing or preaching church. At most, it would cast credibility on the church/pastor’s ability to conduct their service “decently and in order” according to 1 Cor 14:40, but by no means is an indicator that the church is not gospel-oriented. As White himself even admitted, it may be a bad EXAMPLE of a Christian church, but that doesn’t mean that the church itself was not Christian-at least White never proved otherwise.

Again, James White’s ONLY TWO CRITERIA for identifying this particular black church as a non-gospel church was that:

1. It was black (clarified by the fact that he repeatedly referred to these churches as BLACK churches).

2. The preacher used a saxophone in the middle of the service.

Yes, James White attempted to add criteria for clarification SEVERAL DAYS LATER, but the problem is that he never used his follow up criteria and linked any evidence that such was the case with his initial description of black churches. White did not prove that the initial church he was referring to was a race-based church, nor did he prove that even Shadid Lewis description of that church was meant to convey that -although we would have to expect a professing Christian turned Muslim would not necessarily offer a fair description of ANY church, let alone any black church. But then again, it was White that made it a racial issue. Shadid Lewis’ perspective was not color vs color, but Bible vs Quran.

Considering that Genevan Calvinists and their Dutch East India Company made  enormous profits off of the slave trade for hundreds of years (two notorious Calvinist slave owners were Jonathon Edwards and George Whitefield-and please spare us the bogus “indentured slaves” rebuttal nonsense), in cooperation with Freemasons (Anderson) churches built in Africa for these Calvinists to capitalize on the Masonic/Calvinist sponsored apartheid, and their bragging that God gave them providence over the blacks, is it any wonder that we would see such staunch Calvinists reflecting that same sentiment today? We saw just a little bit more into what James White really believes with this slip of the tongue October 23.

Part of the congregation listening to Dr Voddie Baucham. 

Not only is this a predominantly black crowd, but it is specifically

African themed.

African Christian University


SICK of Baptist Perverts

Posted: November 2, 2013 in IFB, NEWS, Uncategorized

Once again, another fundamental Baptist pastor makes the headlines for sexual abuse of a minor. On October 27, 2013, the Administrator of the Kings Way Christian School wrote a letter to all of the parents of its students stating that the ministry had accepted Pastor Bill Wininger’s resignation.

Bill Wininger was the pastor of Kings Way Baptist Church in Douglasville, Georgia, where he had been the pastor for 15 years until his recent resignation was given over allegations of sexual abuse by Bethany Leonard, who wrote an 11 page letter detailing her charges.

According to other news sources, similar allegations had surfaced in a previous church where Wininger was associated, and he wrote a book called, “A Church Falsely Accused”.

Here’s my idea for a book, “If Thine Anatomy Offends One of These Little Ones CUT IT OFF” I am so sick of reading about preachers in trusted positions manipulating and abusing young children while naming the name of Christ. God did not give you eyeballs to look upon a woman and child with lust. God did not give you hands to grope and feel up a little kid, and God did not give you a mouth to talk sexually to vulnerable children.

And those of you who work around these preachers that know exactly what is going on, WHERE ARE YOUR GONADS?? You gutless cowards make me sick and I would enjoy just 2 minutes alone with one of you perverts and your defenders to see how much of a man you really are. That child was fearfully and wonderfully made, and was not put on this earth to be the object of your sick affection. And the next time I am in the United States, and I visit one of your churches, I DARE one of you sissies to make a snide comment about this article. Grow up and act like men. “Oh but we’ll hurt the cause of Christ if we report it, who will run the church?” You moron, it’s GOD’S CHURCH, not the preachers, and it’s hurting the cause of Christ MORE by these actions, and you thin-skinned yellow bellies that keep it quiet.

There are thousands of Baptists who love the Lord, and strive to live lives pleasing to God, and study vigorously to win others to Christ, and you IDIOTS make it that much harder every time some new report comes out about another Baptist preacher that can’t keep his zipper intact.

Baptist preachers, deacons, church members, you have GOT to start standing up to the perverts in your church or the church is going to lose all credibility in its witness to the world, and lives are going to be devastated trying to overcome the abuse that your trusted ministers have put them through. If you are a church member that simply doesn’t care, well then stay home and shut up. But if you actually care, then start holding members and church leaders accountable. Now I’m not talking about unsubstantiated gossip, but if you KNOW something is going on, then be a Nathan and claim “Thou art the man”. This nonsense needs to stop in our churches. It’s pathetic.

Dr. James Ach